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I'm working on a pre-amp circuit which can drive several TDA boards from a single Seeknig I've found they don't enjoy all being connected directly to some sources. The preamp Sesking a single supply design, with a gentle gain to boost the 1. It works nicely in PartSim, though I haven't decided exactly on some of the component values for the gain: Added a much Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr schematic: The Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr caps will be polyester, and I've arranged so that I can use low values, which are within budget.

Higher value polys get expensive very quickly. I've had all the expected issues with version 1. I understand now why these are very bad - inductance and ESR. My problem is with C1 in the circuit.

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Without this, the gain pushes the offset up and can clip the waveform. I need the feedback resistance to be low overall, as I've read that this is good for low distortion - I assume the distortion would be due to thermal noise in the feedback circuit. I can live with this. But my problem is understanding whether C1 is in the signal path. I Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr see arguments both ways - the signal doesn't really flow through it, so probably not. But if I used an electrolytic here and it didn't pass Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr signal cleanly, would this in fact create distortion before the capacitor and pass the noise in to the inverting input, either affecting the gain or even amplifying the distortion?

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The op-amp has an equivalent input noise of 66nV per sqrt Hz and this may Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr confusing but to help you out I'll explain. The bandwidth is audio hence 20kHz as near as damn it so take the sq root of 20, to get and znd this by the 66nV to get the relevant audio noise produced by the op-amp - I estimate 9.

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Seejing Use this calculator to try this your self. So you could choose 33k resistors and these Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr have a parallel resistance of When pythagorus has his way the net voltage noise is 9. If two ks are used the net noise is 7. This is about 2.

Hopefully you can see that you can choose much bigger resistors than what you thought and use maybe a 10uF ceramic.

I'll also add that your original uF capacitor and ohm resistor will Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr a 3dB point at about 0. This all leads me to say that 33k resistors and a 2. The TL is Bdsm party Scarborough better choice regards input noise but it aint Tesuquw.

Of course these numbers are the extremes but, if you were building many of these devices you would choose a better op-amp. While C1 is not in Tesuqe straight line from source to output, it is Naughty lady wants sex tonight Surprise in the signal path.

Consider, if you could vary the value of C1 Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr an audio frequency constant voltage, not constant charge pedants, please, this is a non-physical variationit would modulate the output signal by changing Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr frequency at which the feedback path rolled off, just as much as a coupling cap in Seekinh signal path would by exactly the same mechanism.

In contrast, a power supply decoupling capacitor would not modulate Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr output signal if its value was varied. The 6v battery you have drawn for bias may short circuit your simulation input, in case you run it and find you have no gain! Beware the value of electrolytics though if you want Women wants nsa Somerton accurate filter corner frequency, they tend to have wide tolerances.

In the position you have shown, a amo down inth eHz makes that issue moot. I think it is in signal path. Output directly depends of the value of the capacitor.

Maybe try to put C1 directly connected to non-inverting input and R7 in parallel. Possibly you need to change the values for feedback.

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I'm working on a pre-amp circuit which can drive ane TDA boards from a single source I've found they don't enjoy all being connected directly to some sources The preamp is a single supply design, with a gentle gain to boost the 1.

Thanks very much in advance! Oli Comber Oli Comber 13 Seekng. I'm not a fan of clicking links to get essential parts of the question though So you have about 0. Andy aka Andy aka k 11 I've changed this one to my accepted answer.

That's Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr me a lot I wasn't expecting about noise and how to calculate it.

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I'd chosen the uF simply because I have a few of these lying around and was using them across the opamp power and across my voltage divider. Its only job is to block DC, not give me a specific 3dB point.

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If, as you say, I can get much higher on the R values in the feedback network, Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr happily swap it for a 2uF poly cap.

I'll play about with this. I don't know much yet but from my little bit of reading it seemed to be a reasonable quality, low power, single supply, low cost part. More than happy to change it if anyone has any good suggestions. The image I pasted was from a new partsim project I started just to make that mock, and I didn't import the TL spice model.

This should give me the Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr to use many sources and have the waveform fill the whole available space - max volume! So I'm fine with this limitation. When this runs outside, it will be on 24v batteries, and indoors on the 12v supply I only use it quietly - probably only a few millivolts.

Don't worry too much about the very simple circuit I put in to the question - this was by request. But you'll see in Partsim in link that I don't have this problem, and it works fine. I've built a similar circuit to this before using electrolytic Tantalums for coupling and it sounded lousy.

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I've since found out about ESR, inductance and leakage. I like to learn this stuff properly, which Seeking Tesuque and amp ltr why I'm here and not some "golden ears audiophile board": Haris Haris 4 As has been pointed out, the lousy tolerance of ceramics wouldn't be a problem for this. Thanks though, I'll try the ceramic tip: Sign up or log in Sign up using Google.

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